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	<title>Comments on: Philips Cinema 21:9 Ultra Widescreen Perfect for Movie Snobs</title>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://technabob.com/blog/2009/01/19/philips-cinema-21-9-ultra-widescreen/comment-page-1/#comment-36415</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually… most movies are 2.35:1. 1.85 movies are a considerable minority these days. More and more movies are being shot in 2.35.&quot; 

Might want to check with Nora Ephron and Nancy Meyers before you commit to that idea. In film, framing itself can set a mood, and for many chick flicks and comedy, 2.35:1 looks too expansive and impersonal to be considered.

I personally love 2.35:1 framing. I use it in my own videos, and I own anamorphic lenses to create this format natively... but I recognize it&#039;s not for the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually… most movies are 2.35:1. 1.85 movies are a considerable minority these days. More and more movies are being shot in 2.35.&#8221; </p>
<p>Might want to check with Nora Ephron and Nancy Meyers before you commit to that idea. In film, framing itself can set a mood, and for many chick flicks and comedy, 2.35:1 looks too expansive and impersonal to be considered.</p>
<p>I personally love 2.35:1 framing. I use it in my own videos, and I own anamorphic lenses to create this format natively&#8230; but I recognize it&#8217;s not for the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this comment..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this comment..</p>
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		<title>By: Palomino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palomino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm....</description>
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		<title>By: cita</title>
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		<dc:creator>cita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 05:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>???.....</description>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so basically pay more for less resolution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so basically pay more for less resolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick1130</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maverick1130</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right... so it&#039;s a novel idea, resulting in gigantic black bars and wasted pixels on everything BUT the occasional movie, so it&#039;s going to have an extremely limited marketshare, being purchased mostly by people looking to shove it in a theater room. and how many people do you actually know that have a designated theater room? Most TVs end up in the family living room or den where cable TV and video games dominate the greater amount of time the TV is in use. Movies maybe a couple times a week if that.

Plus, it&#039;s Phillips. Unless they&#039;ve teamed up with Sony, Samsung, or Panasonic for some help developing a better signal processor for this over-large screen, it&#039;s going to fall on its face. I work for a large retailer in the home theater section and I promise I&#039;ll take everything back if one ever sells to someone who gives a damn about their picture, as opposed to someone who &quot;hates those black bars&quot; ... but then that person will completely ignore you when you explain why they&#039;re there, and that they&#039;ll be there for EVERYTHING but movies...

what they really need to do is put their money into developing an amorphous blob screen that can stretch and morph into the proper screen size for the signal. seeing as we&#039;re still in the 21st century, people are going to have to suck it up. credit to Phillips for outside thinking, but it&#039;s going to come up very short of the mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230; so it&#8217;s a novel idea, resulting in gigantic black bars and wasted pixels on everything BUT the occasional movie, so it&#8217;s going to have an extremely limited marketshare, being purchased mostly by people looking to shove it in a theater room. and how many people do you actually know that have a designated theater room? Most TVs end up in the family living room or den where cable TV and video games dominate the greater amount of time the TV is in use. Movies maybe a couple times a week if that.</p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s Phillips. Unless they&#8217;ve teamed up with Sony, Samsung, or Panasonic for some help developing a better signal processor for this over-large screen, it&#8217;s going to fall on its face. I work for a large retailer in the home theater section and I promise I&#8217;ll take everything back if one ever sells to someone who gives a damn about their picture, as opposed to someone who &#8220;hates those black bars&#8221; &#8230; but then that person will completely ignore you when you explain why they&#8217;re there, and that they&#8217;ll be there for EVERYTHING but movies&#8230;</p>
<p>what they really need to do is put their money into developing an amorphous blob screen that can stretch and morph into the proper screen size for the signal. seeing as we&#8217;re still in the 21st century, people are going to have to suck it up. credit to Phillips for outside thinking, but it&#8217;s going to come up very short of the mark.</p>
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		<title>By: alfski</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nope. you couldn&#039;t even fit two 4:3 movies side-by-side on a 21:9 screen!
two 4:3 movies would require a 24:9 display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope. you couldn&#8217;t even fit two 4:3 movies side-by-side on a 21:9 screen!<br />
two 4:3 movies would require a 24:9 display.</p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually hoping the new iPhone would have a 2.35 to 1 ratio :)</description>
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		<title>By: Andy20</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Excellent format for snakes and funeral processions…
but for nothing else…&quot;

So the hundreds and hundreds of professional cinematographers who choose this aspect ratio to shoot their movies in are wrong?


&quot;Keep in mind that although many blockbusters are framed in the 2.35:1 format, most stick with 1.85:1. &quot;

Actually... most movies are 2.35:1. 1.85 movies are a considerable minority these days. More and more movies are being shot in 2.35. 


&quot;If they shoot in way that makes this format native, I think that they should stop.&quot;

They&#039;ve been doing it for well over 50 years now, and it&#039;s only gotten more and more popular. I don&#039;t think they&#039;re gonna stop any time soon. 



While it&#039;s a good point that it&#039;s really only a tv for movie buffs, and not you&#039;re average viewer... to say that it&#039;s a bad aspect ratio or that only a minority of movies use it is just plain wrong. 
The fact is, we see wider from side to side than we do up and down, as a result of our eyes being placed side by side and not on top of each other. 2.35:1 actually fits our field of vision more naturally than 4:3 or even 16:9 does. 
There&#039;s also the fact that there&#039;s more interesting information to contain in a wider frame than a taller one. You can hold more people&#039;s heads in the frame without having to get too wide. Landscapes are more vast without having to get too much sky. Two-shots of people together in a frame are more eloquently framed. 

On top of that... IMO, at least, 2.35:1 is just a cool looking shape. It feels grand. It feels sleek. 

Now if they&#039;ve only make a projector like this, then we&#039;d be in business! TVs are too small for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Excellent format for snakes and funeral processions…<br />
but for nothing else…&#8221;</p>
<p>So the hundreds and hundreds of professional cinematographers who choose this aspect ratio to shoot their movies in are wrong?</p>
<p>&#8220;Keep in mind that although many blockbusters are framed in the 2.35:1 format, most stick with 1.85:1. &#8221;</p>
<p>Actually&#8230; most movies are 2.35:1. 1.85 movies are a considerable minority these days. More and more movies are being shot in 2.35. </p>
<p>&#8220;If they shoot in way that makes this format native, I think that they should stop.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been doing it for well over 50 years now, and it&#8217;s only gotten more and more popular. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re gonna stop any time soon. </p>
<p>While it&#8217;s a good point that it&#8217;s really only a tv for movie buffs, and not you&#8217;re average viewer&#8230; to say that it&#8217;s a bad aspect ratio or that only a minority of movies use it is just plain wrong.<br />
The fact is, we see wider from side to side than we do up and down, as a result of our eyes being placed side by side and not on top of each other. 2.35:1 actually fits our field of vision more naturally than 4:3 or even 16:9 does.<br />
There&#8217;s also the fact that there&#8217;s more interesting information to contain in a wider frame than a taller one. You can hold more people&#8217;s heads in the frame without having to get too wide. Landscapes are more vast without having to get too much sky. Two-shots of people together in a frame are more eloquently framed. </p>
<p>On top of that&#8230; IMO, at least, 2.35:1 is just a cool looking shape. It feels grand. It feels sleek. </p>
<p>Now if they&#8217;ve only make a projector like this, then we&#8217;d be in business! TVs are too small for me.</p>
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		<title>By: samco</title>
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		<dc:creator>samco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just orderd one.......

hd dvd and bds gnna shine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just orderd one&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>hd dvd and bds gnna shine</p>
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		<title>By: james     braselton</title>
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		<dc:creator>james     braselton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI  THERE   YOU  ARE  RIGHT   21:9  RATIO   SCREEN   IS  BRILLIANT  FOR  MOVIE  BUFF   AND  THE  HARD  CORE  GAMERS  LIKE  ME  CANT  WAIT  UNTILL   I  PLAY  HALO   ON  THE  21:9   SCREEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI  THERE   YOU  ARE  RIGHT   21:9  RATIO   SCREEN   IS  BRILLIANT  FOR  MOVIE  BUFF   AND  THE  HARD  CORE  GAMERS  LIKE  ME  CANT  WAIT  UNTILL   I  PLAY  HALO   ON  THE  21:9   SCREEN</p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You see, big blockbuster movies are often shot in 70-millimeter or Cinemascope formats...&quot;

Wrong. Cinemascope, yes... as a framing standard. 70mm, no. Dark Knight was the notable exception.

Keep in mind that although many blockbusters are framed in the 2.35:1 format, most stick with 1.85:1. 95% of the stuff you watch will feature fat bars on either side. Far more distracting in my opinion than 16:9.

This is a gimmick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You see, big blockbuster movies are often shot in 70-millimeter or Cinemascope formats&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong. Cinemascope, yes&#8230; as a framing standard. 70mm, no. Dark Knight was the notable exception.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that although many blockbusters are framed in the 2.35:1 format, most stick with 1.85:1. 95% of the stuff you watch will feature fat bars on either side. Far more distracting in my opinion than 16:9.</p>
<p>This is a gimmick.</p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Philips has announced a June 2009 release, priced at €4,000 (appx. $5,045 USD). Still no US release planned, though.


http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/philips-gives-cinema-21-9-hdtv-a-price-and-release-date/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Philips has announced a June 2009 release, priced at €4,000 (appx. $5,045 USD). Still no US release planned, though.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/philips-gives-cinema-21-9-hdtv-a-price-and-release-date/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/20/philips-gives-cinema-21-9-hdtv-a-price-and-release-date/</a></p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you could watch five, count-em, five, 4:3 movies side by side on this bad boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you could watch five, count-em, five, 4:3 movies side by side on this bad boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and some of the best american movies ever where shot on 4:3…so forget it!&quot;

Wow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and some of the best american movies ever where shot on 4:3…so forget it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh noes...

According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/31/philips-56-inch-cinema-21-9-hdtv-not-for-americans/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Engadget HD&lt;/a&gt;, Philips has no plans to ever sell these sets in North America. Boo. Hiss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh noes&#8230;</p>
<p>According to <a href="http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/31/philips-56-inch-cinema-21-9-hdtv-not-for-americans/" rel="nofollow">Engadget HD</a>, Philips has no plans to ever sell these sets in North America. Boo. Hiss.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much does this cost?
&#039;

And where can i get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much does this cost?<br />
&#8216;</p>
<p>And where can i get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Pierre Thilges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Pierre Thilges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent format for snakes and funeral processions...
but for nothing else...
and some of the best american movies ever where shot on 4:3...so forget it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent format for snakes and funeral processions&#8230;<br />
but for nothing else&#8230;<br />
and some of the best american movies ever where shot on 4:3&#8230;so forget it!</p>
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		<title>By: technabob</title>
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		<dc:creator>technabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose. I&#039;d really like a massive 2.35:1 set that could collapse to a 16:9 when watching conventional widescreen content. Damn physics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose. I&#8217;d really like a massive 2.35:1 set that could collapse to a 16:9 when watching conventional widescreen content. Damn physics.</p>
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